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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the feedback Donovan. And big props for
contributing to GoASAP with HydroTween – totally rad of you guys to be
sharing your expertise with your peers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I dug into Gaia and it’s a cinch. It is actually
extremely similar to what I imagined creating for us with PureMVC (minus the ide
mxp) as far as “closer to the front-end” is concerned.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You’re absolutely right – its not unlike your
relationship with GoASAP for HydroTween – it’s the foundations like
Interfaces and event handling engines that lay the groundwork for these things
to be built on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My take on Gaia is that it will serve as a terrific example for
me on how design firms like mine should be setting up Flash websites.
What I’ll probably do after I’ve chewed on Gaia for a while is try
building something similar with PureMVC as a base.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I look forward to digging into HydroTween as well! Good
luck with your new framework. Thanks again!! And a fist bump to
Joel Stransky for sharing the info.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Respectfully,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Wilson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> golist-bounces@goasap.org
[mailto:golist-bounces@goasap.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Donovan Adams<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> golist@goasap.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Golist] PureMVC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I think Gaia is very cool,
impressive and very useful. However I feel like it sorta leans towards a
specific need. It looks great for deploying a site if you have an incredibly
short launch date, or you are looking for something with plug and play ease,
but it doesn't neccesarily scream "development framework" to me. More
like a complete site generating tool/system for rapid depoloyment. Gaia
definitely uses the usual MVC patterns. Observer (GaiaHQ), Semaphores for
limiting signals (Event Hijacking). Builds projects similar to the way ANT
builds projects, etc.<br>
<br>
Gaia does everything you would find yourself doing manually. Upside is that it
saves you the work if you don't have existing patterns/utilites in place. The
downside (IMHO) is you're locked into an entire site architecture for all of
your development that is generated more or less by the click of a button.
Granted... I think that's awesome as long as that's what you are looking
for. My hat goes off to Steven for the level of thought and the interface Gaia
provides for generating projects. He's made standards and preactices very accessible
to a large group of poeple with Gaia.<br>
<br>
I agree that PureMVC is a bit daunting, but like GO, it's geared towards what
you layer on top of it. Bit of a learning curve like with anything else. I have
yet to use it in a project, but I was doing some research on it and other MVC
frameworks. I wound up starting on my own framework, but PureMVC seems
like something you could easily port over under most MVC frameworks. It's good
in the sense that it is not specific to Flex like Cairngorm, it's very powerful,
and it has a number of other projects linked to it.<br>
<br>
<br>
Sorry for the slightly off topic rambling! I've been in MVC mode
myself;) more like S&MVC<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
*******<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Chris,<br>
Have you looked in to the <a href="http://www.gaiaflashframework.com/">http://www.gaiaflashframework.com/</a>
?<br>
I find it a little more inviting than PureMVC.<br>
<br>
--Joel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Christopher Wilson <<a
href="mailto:chris@gomedia.us">chris@gomedia.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hello everyone! Moses, you are a
champion!!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I've merely started to "get" the right way to program in
actionscript and admittedly have a long road ahead of me. This is the
first and only programming language that I've studied and it has taken me many
years to reach a point of trying to wrap my head around "design
patterns". I've recently made the commitment to focus on PureMVC and
GoASAP as my foundational frameworks moving forward with application
development. That being said, I really need a mentor to lean on here as I
get started on some projects. We're not building anything complex like
games or huge RIAs - mainly our focus is on common websites with cool
multimedia galleries and cms back-ends. We also of course want slick
transitions leveraging GoASAP or simply piggy-backing on Donovan Adam's great
work with HydroTween.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>We're really a design firm first although we staff programmers, not enough
are knee-deep actionscript talent. If you're available over the next few
months and don't work in a completely opposite time-zone, I'd love to hear from
you. I should hopefully not consume too much of anyone's time - maybe a
handful of hours a week. Let me know your rates and how you'd be willing
to collaborate. Ideally we'd share an SVN on a job and you'd basically go
through, help me with any shortfalls and steer me in the right direction.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thank you very much for your time, it is greatly appreciated. I hope
to hear from some comrades soon.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><strong><span style='color:#7F7F7F'>Christopher "Wilson" Wilson</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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