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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanky ou Cedric.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=newsl@analogdesign.ch href="mailto:newsl@analogdesign.ch">Cedric M.
analogdesign</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:13
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Golist] PureMVC</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Hi Donovan,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>yes I agree with you about MVC. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Regarding code engineering, I was in contact few months ago with
the guy of Vasgen.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Well, it is a good initiative, it is free, based on the free Violet
uml, but unfortunately not very usable in a commercial context.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>For starters on UML and code engineering, they can scratch the surface
of potential of a full featured code engineeering
software.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>I had tested numerous solutions back in that time, when I made a
presentation at the Adobe User Group on this subject: </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2><A
href="http://analogdesign.ch/blog/index.php/archive/uml-drawings-to-actionscript-2-3-code/">http://analogdesign.ch/blog/index.php/archive/uml-drawings-to-actionscript-2-3-code/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2><A
href="http://analogdesign.ch/blog/index.php/archive/presentation-at-adobe-user-group-geneva-on-uml-and-actionscript-generation/">http://analogdesign.ch/blog/index.php/archive/presentation-at-adobe-user-group-geneva-on-uml-and-actionscript-generation/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>It is just a bit outdated, I've finally chosen Enterprise
Architect 7.1, which I feel is the best one. I cannot do without it now!
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>I feel it should be more widely used by the Actionscript community.
I talked about it with Mike Chambers and Colin Moock, but they
do not know that this product existed. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Professional edition is the minimum version to have code engineering
for Actionscript (backward and forward !!!!)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>You should check the trial version, it is just amazing and not
expansive:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2><A
href="http://www.sparxsystems.com/">http://www.sparxsystems.com/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Using PureMVC and UML modeling + code engineering is a very efficient
work environment.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>They've just issued a plugin, based on MDG
technology, to synchronise better with eclipse and flex project, which is
also a must have feature, improvements are on the way regarding
mxml. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>I need for months to make a proper introduction on this subject on my
blog, I'll do it in August. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Happy Flexing and Go asap ;)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=921314407-26072008>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#804040 size=2><FONT color=#000000>Best
regards.<BR><BR>Cedric M. (aka maddec)<BR><BR><SPAN
class=687451914-05032008><FONT face=Arial size=2>Interactive
Creator<BR></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=687451914-05032008>Adobe Flash/Flex/AIR Specialist <BR>Since
1998</SPAN></FONT></FONT><BR>----------------------------------------------------<BR></FONT><A
href="http://analogdesign.ch/"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>http://analogdesign.ch</FONT></A><BR><A
href="http://analogdesign.ch/blog"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>http://analogdesign.ch/blog</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>visual & interactive communication</FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=#804040 size=2><FONT face=Arial color=#000000
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>De :</B> golist-bounces@goasap.org
[mailto:golist-bounces@goasap.org] <B>De la part de</B> Donovan
Adams<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> vendredi, 25. juillet 2008
16:49<BR><B>À :</B> golist@goasap.org<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re:
[Golist] PureMVC<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Just to continue that thought.. Understanding the concept of MVC
is what's really important. The practices behind decoupling your
data/interface/interaction logic is where the real power lies. This
methodology could be applied to any MVC based framework and will make it
infinitely easier to adopt.<BR><BR>I know were still off topic here but I'd
also suggest checking out
VASGen<BR><BR>http://www.selfmummy.com/vasgen/<BR><BR>UML and code
generation. It's still in it's early stages, but it looks very
promising.<BR><BR>A million ways to do the same thing... :)<BR><BR><hr
/><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Hello Christopher,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Personally speaking I have been working with PureMVC framework for
almost one year, for various projects of variable size. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>For example I've used it for a long term medium/big RIA Software for
an International Company, it is so clean and flexible and easy to work with
from start to the end of a project, easy to maintain and to update.
(by the way it is thanks to Design Pattern, the credit does not go really to
PureMVC in this, it is not a surprise that they are Design Patterns are so
popular..).<BR>I must confess that after several month of dev, PureMVC is
absolutely amazing in the way it organise your project, it is very strict
about MVC, but also allows you a lot of flexiblity even if you use Flex
modules and more complex elements. When improvement are made to the
Framework you do not have to modify your code </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>which is very good
comparing to Cairngorm about which I've read that people
complained.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Everything is very well optimized and can be pushed even forward.
<SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>I feel it is far more
cleaner than the "official" Cairngorm Adobe
solution.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>The documentation is very precise and well written, forum people are
very active you can ask any question if you aren't sure about the best
practice for a specific point .<SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT
face=Arial size=2>A courseware is available to get started with
it.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>I understand that it may sound complicated for newbies regarding
Design Patterns, but do not be afraid, if you stick to the rules, you
needn't to know very deeply pattern used, they've been written for
you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>It is platform independant, it started as a Flex Framework,
but it has been so well thought that it has been ported to
numerous languages.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>It has also plenty of tools developed by people aka project Manifold
(a bit equivalent to goasap playground).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>The way it handles its own events through notification is also sooo
useful!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>You should maybe read this blog entry I made on PureMVC, speaking
about a comparison between frameworks few month
ago:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2><A
href="http://analogdesign.ch/blog/index.php/archive/pattern-park-reviewed-flex-application-frameworks-puremvc-winner/">http://analogdesign.ch/blog/index.php/archive/pattern-park-reviewed-flex-application-frameworks-puremvc-winner/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Must have tools, utils and frameworks:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>PureMVC (framework)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Subversion (versionning)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Enterprise Architect (UML/code engineering)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>Goasap ;) !!! +
Hydrotween</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eclipse (so
good!)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fdt
</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>Masapi (loading
API)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>Papervision3D, Away3D
</FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>WOW
Engine</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you are a newbies on
Design Patterns you should check this book (better than the official Adobe
one):</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://www.amazon.com/ActionScript-3-0-Design-Patterns-Programming/dp/0596528469/ref=cm_lmf_tit_5_rsrsrs0">http://www.amazon.com/ActionScript-3-0-Design-Patterns-Programming/dp/0596528469/ref=cm_lmf_tit_5_rsrsrs0</A></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><SPAN
class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>an excellent companion to
Mr. Moock book!</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=343184813-25072008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=343184813-25072008></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=2>I hope this will help you.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=343184813-25072008>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#804040 size=2><FONT color=#000000>Best
regards.<BR><BR>Cedric M. (aka maddec)<BR><BR><SPAN
class=687451914-05032008><FONT face=Arial size=2>Interactive
Creator<BR></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=687451914-05032008>Adobe Flash/Flex/AIR Specialist <BR>Since
1998</SPAN></FONT></FONT><BR>----------------------------------------------------<BR></FONT><A
href="http://analogdesign.ch/"><FONT face=Arial
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size=2>http://analogdesign.ch/blog</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>visual & interactive
communication</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#804040 size=2><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000
size=2><BR>----------------------------------------------------</FONT></FONT></P></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><STRONG>De :</STRONG>
golist-bounces@goasap.org [mailto:golist-bounces@goasap.org] <STRONG>De la
part de</STRONG> Christopher Wilson<BR><STRONG>Envoyé :</STRONG>
jeudi, 24. juillet 2008 17:38<BR><STRONG>À :</STRONG>
golist@goasap.org<BR><STRONG>Objet :</STRONG> [Golist]
PureMVC<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hello everyone! Moses, you are a
champion!!<BR><BR></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I’ve merely started to “get” the right way to program
in actionscript and admittedly have a long road ahead of me. This is
the first and only programming language that I’ve studied and it has taken
me many years to reach a point of trying to wrap my head around “design
patterns”. I’ve recently made the commitment to focus on PureMVC and
GoASAP as my foundational frameworks moving forward with application
development. That being said, I really need a mentor to lean on here
as I get started on some projects. We’re not building anything
complex like games or huge RIAs – mainly our focus is on common websites
with cool multimedia galleries and cms back-ends. We also of course
want slick transitions leveraging GoASAP or simply piggy-backing on
Donovan Adam’s great work with HydroTween.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>We’re really a design firm first although we staff
programmers, not enough are knee-deep actionscript talent. If you’re
available over the next few months and don’t work in a completely opposite
time-zone, I’d love to hear from you. I should hopefully not consume
too much of anyone’s time – maybe a handful of hours a week. Let me
know your rates and how you’d be willing to collaborate. Ideally
we’d share an SVN on a job and you’d basically go through, help me with
any shortfalls and steer me in the right direction.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Thank you very much for your time, it is greatly
appreciated. I hope to hear from some comrades soon.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Best,</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
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